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if we don't deal with the deficit right away. the fiscal cliff is a very different story. that's about reducing the deficit too fast. >> ifill: you call it an austerity bomb. describe what you mean by that. >> what's happening is that we are scheduled, unless something is done basically to do to ourselves gratuitously what has been happening to some of the european economies. we're going to have substantial spending cuts, substantial tax increases at a time when the dme is still very weak. of course that's a recipe for sliding back into recession. we set ourselves up with the land mine and the road in front of our economy which is not based on anything real, it's just based on our politicalness. >> ifill: speaking of political mess, both sides have what they say are opening gambits on the table. president obama at least his last week which calls for $1.6 trillion in revenues. the republicans came back with their own yesterday. as you looked at each approach, what do you see in that? >> well, i think it's important. i think the reporting has been a little weak on the republican plan. it
in a fiscal cliff deal. we talk with delaware governor jack markell. >> susie: i'm susie gharib. a coalition of the nation's top c.e.o.s is feeling pessimistic about getting a fiscal cliff deal.
on the fiscal cliff. this morning a leading republican said any deal should include the major drivers of our debt. >> the long-term indebtedness of this country is baby boomers retiring putting pressure on medicaid, medicare and social security. i hope my party will look out for the country and not just the party itself and pure this president to do something he has never done before, lead in a bipartisan way. >> reporter: a little swipe there at the end but republicans have been consistent that it is important to address entitlement reform, something they very much want on the table if we're going to have a big deal in this fiscal cliff matter. jon? jon: on the democratic side it seems like they are holding firm on being sure that there is additional tax revenue in any fiscal cliff deal, right? >> jon, no question about that. they have been consistent from the very beginning. the president ran on the upper income americans paying more taxes as part of this deal. we heard more from chuck schumer on "fox news sunday". >> we democrats realize that there have to be two sides to this bargain but
of a good thing. stocks soared in early trading on hopes of a deal on the fiscal cliff. but a parade of speeches by congressional leaders this afternoon dump ad whole lot of water on the rally. stocks pared back from session highs. dow closed down 78 points. even dollar stores are having trouble making money today. dollar general shares got hammered. they warned of sluggish growth ahead and margins that would likely remain flat. >>> urban outfitters is mailing holiday catalogs filled with f-bombs. did you get one of these. retailer is seeing quote, high single-digit expansion in same-store sales this quarter. shares rose more than 4% on the news. it is our top story tonight. un-busters cracking the bedrock of labor unions in michigan even though fiery protests rocked the state capitol all day today they were out there. its house of representatives has passed two right to work bills making it possible for workers to volunteer to belong to a union and pay dues. michigan governor rick snyder could sign bills into law any minute now. so is this the end for unions? joining me now is the t
thing to the fiscal cliff deal? a deal i'm pretty sure is pretty bad whatever it is. not enough. >> but every little bit helps and here's the point. you know, the post office defaulted twice in the last couple of months, erin. august, defaulted $5.5 billion the first time. congress did nothing, fiddled. happened in september. overall last year, they lost $15.9 billion. something's got to be done. do they kick the can to the next year? >> thanks so much, john. >>> talking about default, they default and nobody cares. some day we'll care and going to hurt. >>> next, 22 days if the fiscal cliff and the president's taking the plan on the road but a guest says mr. obama, you are overplaying your hand. >>> and a radio prank blamed for a suicide. the two deejays behind the hoax speak out for the first time. with a deadline. and from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. this is awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is, business pro. yes, it is. go national. go li
in congress will be to blame if there's not a deal on the fiscal cliff. so is the speaker losing the fiscal cliff pr battle? the american people are blaming him. >> well, the speaker's trying to have a conversation with the president about how to solve the nation's problems. and the president is out on the campaign trail. the president prefers to campaign trail to the hard and rough road of true leadership in washington, d.c. i kind of think the president may have overplayed his hand a little bit here. if he were smart, the american people would be a little more expecting of him to be in washington to fix this before christmas. we're all a little tired of this campaign drama. i was looking at pictures today of the president in michigan. i thought, wait a minute, i thought the election was over. people are going to see through this. you can't sell them short. they'll figure it out. >> to ben's point, we know americans support raising taxes on people who make over $250,000. that's not many people and most people support other people paying more taxes. so most people support it, why is he out
to help some of the nation's top business executives sell their deal on the fiscal cliff and this week the white house had a major victory on that front. the business roundtable, the group that represents some of the top business ceos changed its position and came out in support of raising the tax rate on the top 2% as part of a larger fiscal cliff deal. in a conference call today, their chairman at the business roundtable said, some executives are unhappy that we want to even mention revenues or taxes but he said everybody's got to feel a little bit like they are getting nailed and then we will know if we've got a deal. white house officials met with this group and also helped them get to this place. they said, bottom line, they knew that they thought their prospects deal was grim and this was a step they had to take to help both sides come to a deal. >> maybe it will help because a lot of these guys are very, very influential. speaking of the fiscal cliff, jessica, what did the fed chairman ben bernanke say about these current negotiations? >> well, bernanke is the man credited with
will get their back on this and other issues. but remember, he has to strike a fiscal cliff deal. that deal is likely to contain some things unions don't like. that is some of the politics going on right now. rick: bob cusack, managing editor of "the hill." thanks so much. >> thanks, rick. >> there are three elements to this. growth, reduction in spending, and raising of revenues. we have already voted for, we, democrats voted for over a trillion dollars in cuts and spending. that was part of the budget control act and that's part of how we should go forward. jenna: that was house minority leader nancy pelosi late last month,g democrats in congress support ad trillion dollars in federal spending cuts. with so much of the fight over that looming fiscal cliff focusing on tax rates we want to look at that claim, that claim specific to spending to see how it stands up with the facts. doug mckelway is live in washington with more on this story. >> reporter: good morning, jenna. the republicans claim democrats are solely focused on raising tax rates not spending cuts. democrats counter what we he
if they are doing their part to rise above partisan politics and reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. good morning again, everybody. i'm becky quick. here is what we know right now. the pace of private talks picking up speed as we now have just 20 days left. however, neither the white house nor house speaker boehner's office are giving any public indication that either side is yet prepared to give up real ground. on a road trip yesterday, president obama indicated that he is willing to compromise, just not on that point about an increase in tax for relthy americans. meantime, speaker boehner says he is still waiting on specific spending cuts. joining us now for analysis, tony fratto, of hamilton place strategies and former white house press secretary and gerald bernstein former economic adviser to vice president joe biden. gentlemen, thank you for being here with us and getting this special day of coverage kicked off for us. >> rising early and rising above. >> exactly. let's talk about this. jared, it seems like things have gotten quieter. do you think that's the case? is that a good sign? >> i t
by leaving town before making a deal on the fiscal cliff. what's going on? if you take an aspirin to prevent heart trouble check the labor. our own dr. sanjay gupta tells us what a new study says about the effects of coated tablets. we'll also hear what happened during in flight emergency during one of the world's newest high-tech planes. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in the situation room. >>> with just 27 days to go until all of us are hit with tax increases, takes it across the board a cut of $55 billion. people have it in their power to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff aren't negotiating, they're not debating right now, so many of them simply leaving town. but there's more going on than meets the eye. let's bring in our senior congressional correspondent dana basch, she has the latest. >> reporter: there's so much political theater around here right now, you could say tickets. one of today's acts was the house leaving. lawmakers streaming out of the capitol hill, racing to their cars to get to the airport and go home. it's a scene you usually see on a thursday afternoon or friday morning, not
for dealing with the fiscal cliff in detroit. connell: peter barnes is in d.c. with the very latest on all of this. peter: neither side is dishing on the meeting yesterday afternoon. both sides issuing identical statement that said "the lines of communication remain open." the best strategy for republicans may be to swallow some higher tax rates, get that issue off the table and then come back to entitlement reform early next year when the president asks for an increase in the debt ceiling. then republicans will have a little more leverage. >> a lot of people are putting forth a theory. i think it has merit. you give the president the 2% increase that he is talking about. there is a growing body. i believe that maybe the best route for us to take. peter: this afternoon, the president will speak in detroit. he will be speaking at and engine company, detroit diesel. obama aides said the company will also announce $100 million new investment and production as part of the president visit. dagen and connell. dagen: thank you very much, peter. peter barnes in washington. connell: groups of union
over the fiscal cliff and have a deal. host: this is a very important change. a lot of people say, 1995 and 1996, the speaker and president clinton were able to cut a deal addicted to their caucuses what will happen. this is a different deal. he could say, if you do not like the steel, it is not clear to me if john boehner wanted the cops as they would take him up on the offer. guest: the parties are much more partisan and split. the ideological differences between them are much greater. the speaker is a little weaker than gingrich was before. the world has changed completely since 1995. guest: i would point out all the focus is on the house. how are you going to get it through the senate? mitch mcconnell is in a tough position. harry reid, he has some people who loves his job. he would like to be along with the progressives. i look at this and i worry because in the camp that believes going over the cliff -- the united states will enter a new recession. i do not see the basic associations on the house and senate side that would write the legislation and pass it. host: so far the market
be aimed at easing the blow if a deal on the fiscal cliff is not reached by year's end. >>> a temporary retraining order and injunction against transcanada took effect today. it stepped construction of a pipeline from canada to the gulf coast. a texas judge issued the order after a private landowner claimed he was defrauded by the company. >>> and stubhub has struck out with several major league baseball clubs. the new york yankees, chicago cubs and l.a. angels of anaheim apparently had enough of their ticket selling less than face value on the website. mlb extended the partnership with stubhub through the year 2017. that is the latest from the fox business network, giving you the power to prosper. melissa: speaker boehner taking the house floor with just 20 days left until we fall off the fiscal cliff. lori: what is so funny about that? melissa: i don't know the image of us diving over the cliff. he says it is time for president obama to get serious. rich edson --. lori: sorry to interrupt. melissa: he has the latest. rich. >> that image is getting closer and closer to reablety here as
spending decreases if you go over the fiscal cliff than if you deal with president obama. >> greta: well, it appears to many in the city that it's politico check mate for the president. if we go over the fiscal cliff, what it means is the taxes will go up on the wealthy, the big earners. it also goes up on the middle class. i assume the middle class will look to the rawp republicans foe fact that their taxes come up so political check mate. >> i'm not so sure. president obama could avoid that very simply by putting maybe two or three to one expenditure reductions on the table for revenue increases, something like sim responsibl simpson bow. he has a formula given to him by a commission he appointed and heted that formula and presented to the republicans a program which was basically just a massive tax increase over and above the massive tax increase that's going to take place with the bush tax cuts expiring, so i don't see where there's -- he hasn't given them room to compromise. maybe if he had put his tax increases on the table and put up expenditure reductions of, you know, one and a
of conversations about the fiscal cliff. tonight we hear from economist paul krugman. >> i don't think there's going to be much of a deal. i think there's going to be a kind of... there will be an outcome. >> woodruff: from haiti, fred de sam lazaro reports on the efforts to stem a deadly cholera epidemic that began after the 2010 earthquake. >> ifill: and ray suarez talks to author and journalist tom ricks about what he describes as the decline of american military leadership. >> today nobody gets credit for anything and mediocrity is accepted as a core value in the performance of generals. >> ifill: that's all ahead on tonight's newshour. major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: moving our economy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that connects us. >> and by the bill and melinda gates foundation. dedicated to the idea that all people deserve the chance to live a healthy, productive life. and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station
a deal, there is a significant portion of the republican party that would rather go over the fiscal cliff and have a deal. host: this is a very important change. a lot of people say, 1995 and 1996, the speaker and president clinton were able to cut a deal addicted to their caucuses what will happen. this is a different deal. he could say, if you do not like the steel, it is not clear to me if john boehner wanted the cops as they would take him up on the offer. guest: the parties are much more partisan and split. the ideological differences between them are much greater. the speaker is a little weaker than gingrich was before. the world has changed completely since 1995. guest: i would point out all the focus is on the house. how are you going to get it through the senate? mitch mcconnell is in a tough position. harry reid, he has some people who loves his job. he would like to be along with the progressives. i look at this and i worry because in the camp that believes going over the cliff -- the united states will enter a new recession. i do not see the basic associations on the house and
sure they disappear the way they should and if necessary go over the fiscal cliff. no deal's better than a bad deal. great to see you today. join the conversation any time at 1-866-55-press. follow us on twitter at bpshow. peter ogborn and dan henning team press in place here this morning. good morning guys. peter's always keeping track of the social media and your comment on twitter. phil backert has the phones and cyprian bowlding has the camera. our videographer keeping us looking good here on current tv. well, we know that breaking news this morning actually came across the wires that kate middleton is filing better. she's over that acute morning sickness. she's left the hospital. and at the same time, a little breaking news, we learned that yesterday a couple of talk show hosts, radio talk show hosts from australia with the worst british accents i have ever heard did a prank call to the hospital where kate was kept for a couple of days. pretending to be the queen and prince charles checking in on kate's
in portland. thank you. jenna: as the clock winds down on the looming fiscal cliff one key stumbling block is trying to reach a deal when it comes to spending. when we look at spending we look at things like food stamps. we'll look at the price tag for this safety net program and how it plays into the national debate on debt. >>> plus, some bombshell developments in michigan as governor rick snyder okays new right to work laws. what it means for organized labor. the future of unions in this country as well as our economy next. it's my favorite time of year again and now -- i got a great new way to get deals. it's called bankamerideals, from bank of america. i choose the cash back deals in my mobile or online banking. i just use my bank of america debit or credit card when i pay. and i get as much as 15% cash back -- put into my account. this is cash back on top of other rewards i already get. best of all -- it's free. happy holidays. [ male announcer ] introducing bankamerideals, free for online banking customers. sign in to your online banking to choose your deals today. jenna: new inform
of the fiscal cliff negotiations. their hope is that those will end with a deal between congress and the president and that will make way for a steady improvement in the economy. those are the things that they will monitor to see when is the time that they can ease back. >> sreenivasan: greg ip from the "economist," thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >> sreenivasan: wall street initially rallied on the fed's pronouncement, but the enthusiasm quickly flagged and stocks gave up the gains. in the end, the dow jones industrial average lost three points to close at 13,245. the nasdaq fell eight points to close at 3,013. indianapolis will be the first major american city to replace all city-owned cars with electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles. the program announced today calls for completing the switch by 2025. the city also plans to phase in fire trucks and other heavy vehicles that run on compressed natural gas. officials said they're asking auto makers to create plug-in hybrid police cars, which don't yet exist. retiring u.s. senator joe lieberman said goodbye to the sen
dealing with hurricane sandy. we're dealing with the fiscal cliff. we do not have enough money for our own country. >> we need to understand that the fiscal cliff and the climate is not associated. the climate is not waiting for us. developed countries need to make some serious shifting of priorities and they need to allocate what is needed to solve the climate issue. >> anjali appadurai, to a student at the college of the atlantic. she addressed the durban u.n. climate summit. this year, has been allowed back in for the last week, to participate. when we come back, we have an analyst talking about the kocht opus. >> today at the doha summit, we went to a news conference were major climate negotiator from belgium and the european union sang the song as well. this is democracy now!,, the war and peace report. we are broadcasting from the 18th u.n. climate change summit. i'm amy goodman. the billionaire brothers charles and david koch are known for funneling vast amounts of money into republican campaigns. the u.s. is accused of blocking progress here
, they go away. at the end of the year for many of the folks, if no deal is reached over the fiscal cliff. cnn has the details. >> reporter: liz does not call it a fiscal cliff. she could be facing at year's end is a financial free-fall. >> i just don't wish i was in this situation but it is what it is. and i could just do what i can. >> reporter: she lost her job as a new home sales manager last january. annan old laptop with a broken cord, she applies for job after job, keeping track in a notebook. averaging 15 applications a day, at age 54, this is the first time she's ever been on unemployment. she's emptied out her 401(k), savings and the last resort, emergency federal jobless program kept her in her town home giving her $454 a week. december 29th, unless congress and the white house act the money stops. >> we're not trying to live off the system. we're trying to survive. it's not a luxury to be on unemployment. it's a means to keep us going. >> reporter: the fear of the fiscal cliff isn't just cheer in the suburban neighborhood. in the states with the highest unemployment from the w
, former secretary of treasury, former white house chief of staff on how to stay off the fiscal cliff and on what his party should learn from the last election. >>> next, when the u.s. aimed high in the 1960s, we sent a man to the moon. with a similar effort, we can now cure cancer. that whees the head of the largest cancer center in the world, houston's m.d. anderson says. you want to hear why we're so close to success and yet so far. >>> and merge has lost its numb were one standings in lots of areas from competitiveness to education. the new number one in most cases, a scandinavian country. what is the secret sauce? we'll dig into it. >>> but first here's my take. as we debate whether the two parties can ever come together and get things done, here's something president obama could probably do by himself that would be a single accomplish money of the his presidency. end the war on tar rohr. for the first time since 9/11 an official has raised the prospect. johnson said in a speech to the oxford last week as the battle against al qaeda continues, there will be come a tipping point a
, but america may fall off the fiscal cliff this week. the deadline to get a deal done just moved up. we'll tell you why and what it means for your wallet. >> steve: meanwhile, it is one of the most famous stories from the bible and this morning, the guy who discovered the titanic wreck says he's got proof noah's ark was real. i don't think that's picture of it, but you got to hear the story. "fox & friends" hour two for tuesday starts right now. >> steve: welcome, everybody. eric, do you have your christmas tree up yet at at "the five" sh. >> eric: we have one up and we have a menorah as well. >> steve: 'tis the season. very nice. we have three, at least three christmas trees in the hall. if you don't count those concal things. >> gretchen: people were e-mailing, where is the christmas tree. >> steve: there is one here and one behind me. >> gretchen: and one in the shot. >> steve: jolly old ted. >> gretchen: is it there now? yeah. we have a lot. >> gretchen: oh, my goodness. to think i didn't notice that this morning. >> eric: take the menorah shot. there we go. >> steve: properly lit. >> gretc
their paychecks and health care benefits until the deal is reached on the fiscal cliff. we'll be talking about whether -- we made a mistake earlier, if that person will make a difference for republicans not a representative. if nothing is worked out before the new year, it calls for a two-year, 15% pay cut for both the president and capitol hill lawmakers. so far 10,000 people have signed it. >>> t minus 24 days and counting until the nation could begin that dreaded slide down the fiscal cliff. we're going to get to that in just a moment. well, we're going to do that now. let's listen to house speaker john boehner, he had this to say. >> this isn't a progress report, because there's no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> joining me now, white house correspondent for the hill and congressional correspondent ed o'keith. hi, guys, good to see you both. >> good morning. >> you heard john boehner. we'll start with you. meanwhile the white house say republicans are the ones to blame for
white house chief of staff on how to stay off the fiscal cliff and what the party should learn from the last election. >>> next, when the u.s. aimed high in the 1960s, we sent a man to the moon w the same effort, we can now cure cancer, that's what the head of the largest cancer center in the word, m.d. anderson says. >>> and america has lost it's number one standing in lotts of areas, from competitiveness to education, the new number one in most cases a scandinavian country, what is the credit sauce? we'll dig into it. but first here's my take. as we debate whether the two parties can ever come together and get things done, here is something president obama could do probably by himself that would be a single accomplishment of his presidency, end the war on terror. for the first time since 9/11, an administration official has raised this prospect. said in a speech to the oxford union last week, that as the battle against al qaeda continues, there will be come a tipping point as so many of the leaders and operatives of al qaeda have killed or captures such as al qaeda as we know it h
the dollar, we might be greece, we have got to deal with our debt bomb, we have got to face the fiscal cliff that's coming in a couple of weeks. >> so you know what both sides are saying? the president is saying there's no way to make the math work. without raising the rates for the top income earners and that the republicans should give on this. >> yeah. >> do you think he's right? >> well, i understand that position, that was the position he took during the campaign. but what has to happen in my view, you've got to have everything on the table, you have to have revenue increases. now how you get those to revenue increases was an item of discussion during the campaign, and it's an item more negotiation, i for one think you can get there by eliminating and broadeninging the tax base which eliminating loopholes and deductions. the truth of the matter is that we're not undertaxed as americans, we overspend. i think everything would agree that we overspend that's why we have this debt to gdp of 100% as far as the eye can see absent policy changes, so whatever you do, you first have to agree wha
the fiscal cliff. the president is refusing to compromise on letting tax cuts expire on incomes of more than $250,000 a year. g.o.p. leaders are calling that a job killer and a deal breaker. of course, if we fall off the fiscal cliff, we'll all die, right? actually, taxes will go up for pretty much everybody and automatic spending cuts kick in on knew year's day. the president and the house speaker met face-to-face just yesterday for the first time since the election, but are they talking about it? no. today an aide said the speaker is willing and still waiting for counteroffer from the president. ed henry is live at the white house. i don't know, ed. a meeting happens and nobody says anything. this could be seen as something more good than bad. >> reporter: exactly. because they didn't come out of the meeting beating each other up and saying i'm never going to sign a deal with the other guy. the fact that they're keeping this quiet, hush hush for now in terms of the details of what they discussed suggests that they're hopeful of a deal, although i have to tell you. the president sounded pre
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. sounds like he will get a deal with the fiscal cliff. that he can go to his base and say here's what i got you. so it sounds like he's going to come out of this latest negotiation strong and so he's going to be able to use that, as you say, use that capital. use that clout to try to get something done and it's very encouraging. you have lindsey graham from south carolina who now probably isn't going to face a primary challenge. because of the demint seat now. working with senator schumer from new york, trying to work this out so if there's any positive repercussions from the demint thing is the fact that lindsey graham might now be more likely to work with schumer graham one of the leaders on this issue and work with the democrats in general to try to get something done. it failed -- the talks failed in 2011. this is another shot. >> bill: well, you know, it is -- it is time for this issue. way pastime. way pastime for this issue. >> use the presidential bully pulpit to get this done. the question is what exactl
a deal to keep us from going off the fiscal cliff. the president says the latest republic offer is out of balance because it extends tax cuts on income of above $250,000. g.o.p. leaders claim they can raise revenue without raising rates by closing loopholes and limiting deductions. but the white house says it's about the rates. ed henry is at the white house tonight. the president claims the republic math does not add up. >> that's right, shep. he met with the nation's governors today. he said behind closed doors that there is a lot at stake not just for the national economy but state by state. some of their budgets could take a major hit if, in fact, the nation goes off the so-called fiscal cliff. his spokesman jay carney was even tougher in going after speaker john boehner's latest proposal in saying it simply doesn't add up. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenues. it's magic beans and fairy dust. >> the bottom line is the president and speaker boehner have not spoken now in several days. so there is reall
could tumble off the so-called fiscal cliff if washington can't strike a deal. so with the clock ticking and the stakes so high, both the white house and republican leaders are tamping down their fiery rhetoric. listen to president obama's sales pitch for his version of a compromise. >> when you put it all together, what you need is a package that keeps taxes where they are for middle class families, we make some tough spending cuts on things that we don't need, and then we ask the wealthiest americans to pay a slightly higher tax rate. >> brianna keilar is at the white house. brianna, are meetings going on outside of the public's view? is that your understanding? >> reporter: well, there are discussions. that is what we're told. as we understand it, obviously, the last meeting between the president and speaker boehner was on sunday. but we're told by both the white house and the speaker's office that discussions are ongoing, so, obviously, they can all pick up the telephone, and that, quote, the lines of communication are open. this is thing we're hearing over and over again. but make t
forfeit their paychecks and health care benefits until a deal is reached on the fiscal cliff. if nothing is worked out, there's a two-year 15% pay cut for both the president and capitol hill lawmakers. so far, more than 10,000 people are signed on board for that. time now for the big three and the topics, face-to-face history in the makings and the must read. we bring in the panel. aaron, msnbc contributor robert tray numb and adviser to the hillary clinton and al gore campaigns, doug. doug, i want to start with you. the first topic is face-to-face. what can be accomplished in the one-on-one negotiations between president obama and speaker boehner when you consider friday speaker boehner said the negotiations are nowhere? >> the pressure really is on the speaking and the house republicans. it's quite clear in the polls and everybody knows they are the ones standing in the way of tax relief for middle class working people just because they want to hold that hostage to tax cuts for the 2% richest people. he could, in that meeting, meet the president half way right off the block. say okay,
. >> the joint economic committee today heard from the two economists on how to deal with the fiscal cliff. marchese said tax increases are necessary to reduce the deficit. senator bob casey of pennsylvania chaired the hearing. >> the committee will come to order. we want to thank everyone for being here today. i did not have a chance to personally greet our witnesses, but i will have time to do that later. i want to thank both of our witnesses for being here. i will have an opening statement that i will make, and then i will turn it to dr. burgess. i know that vice chairman brady will be her as well. we know the challenges that we confront here in congress on a whole range of issues which are sometimes broadly described under the umbrella of the terminology, fiscal cliff -- when we confront those difficult challenges, we have to ask ourselves a couple of basic questions. one of the basic questions we must ask is, what will be the result and will be the impact as it relates to middle income families? what will happen to them in the midst of all these tough issues we have to work out? we kn
fear of republicans we cut a deal in the short term on fiscal cliff without any real spending reform or tax reform and won't have enough time or political will to get the real reforms that need to take place and republicans raise taxes and get no spending cuts. >> that's the biggest fear of democrats we don't deal with thi this. >> eugene, we were showing the tape of harry reid. we write, republicans must wise up. the biggest problem the republican party faces is not uninspiring candidates or unsound tactics, it is unpopular ideas. >> good lord, gene, you have just written a column i disagree with even more than jeff gre greenfeld's column. it will be one of the better segments. we can talk about that for five hours. keep reading, i can't wait to hear what's next. >> this reality was brought home in last month's election and playing out in the struggle over how to avoid the fiscal cliff and we will see it again in coming fights of immigration and entitlements and a host of other things. the sad thing is republicans get this stuff so wrong that democrats aren't even forced to go to th
to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama says he expects a deal before the year is out. and both sides traded offers yesterday. the markets are watching every move. >>> today is decision day for the fed. central bank announced another round of bond buying. we look ahead to the news conference with ben bernanke. >>> and michigan's governor makes history, turning a one-time union powerhouse
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these numbers? two, can he use these numbers to bolster his case for a deal on the fiscal cliff? >> the answer first of all, f they were to dahl me i would say don't take a victory lap because it's 7.7% unemployment. if you are under employed or you have stopped looking or don't have a job at all, you don't want to here that this is happy days are here again. >> bill: you he we are moving in the right direction? >> right. >> we have made progress but we have a long way to go. there are too many people out of work. >> the last thing we want to do is as the congressional budget has said if we go over the fiscal cliff, it will increase unemployment to 9%. this is thought the time for the cliff to go into effect. it's why everyone is saying don't do this. long time, too big of a deficit reduction. we need something longer term and more gradual. >> that's his argument. this gives him a lot more ammunition, it seems to me, in dealing with a congress saying this proves that we are moving in the right direction and the worst thing we could do would bring everything to
and house speaker john boehner talked by phone today about the so-called fiscal cliff-- those tax hikes for most americans and massive spending cuts that will kick in the first of the year unless two strike a budget deal. a republican source tells us that the president has cut his demand for more tax revenue from $1.6 trillion to $1.4 trillion, but the source said that the lower figure is no more acceptable to republicans. but the negotiations continue in private. the united states has a lot at stake in the syrian civil war. president obama has suggested that american firepower might be needed to prevent the dictatorship from using chemical weapons. we've learned that tomorrow the administration will endorse one of the rebel groups that is now fighting to overthrow bashar al- assad. who are these new american allies? clarissa ward found their leader in brussels. >> reporter: moaz al-khatib is the man chosen to lead a newly formed coalition of syria's opposition groups. what does it mean to be recognized by the u.s.? "the u.s. administration has big influence globally" he told us. "a ste
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. >> 40 minutes past the hour. it's all quiet on capitol hill. when it comes to the looming fiscal cliff crisis that could be a good thing. in 21 days we go over that cliff and four days to get a deal done before they head to christmas break. drastic tax hikes and spending cuts loom. cnn political reporter shannon travis jones us live from washington. what are you hearing? >> well, we're hearing that the negotiations are continuing, zoraida. exactly what those negotiations contain, what's actually happening in them, we're unclear of. so we know that president obama and house speaker john boehner had that one-on-one meeting on sunday, it was their first since mid-november. discussions have continued but, again, very light on details. both sides yesterday put out statements from a public and then from the white house. very light on details. i'll read just one of them for you. quote, discussions with the white house are taking place but we have no detail to share about the substance of those conversations. the republican offer made last week remains the republican offer and we continue to w
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